The photos showed the girls belongings spread out on rocks, along with plastic bags and candy wrappers, mounds of dirt, and a mirror. It is clear they contributed much to this by their actions. Its at the very top of the post. I think the camera dried and started working again and they took pictures at night. Her right hand is clearly raised in front of her shading her face from the sunlight. Sue and Dennis Borries are pictured in an undated image. For the next four days they travel. But the blue was also something I noticed. Hi Ray, thank you for your comment. They were lost very shortly after arriving at their destination, And then they made a huge mistake by heading due north to find their way back home and they should have been going to the southeast. I think that she has her hand to her ear,she looks like she is trying to hear what someone is saying,and also,the light is in her eyes;.It looks like she has twisted herself around in doing so. Personally, I believe that number one mentioned above is the most likely reason. Disturbing evidence also showed there were a number of failed attempts to unlock Kris' phone - sparking another theory that Kris had died and Lisanne was frantically trying to access her phone to get help. & is that some sort of an entrance to a cave or another makeshift structure shes crouching to take a look inside- or is a part of the trail in that spot purposefully made lower & narrower in order to pass through? Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. 3. Wonder if this case has any similarities? Dog owners here are not mindful of where their dog goes the owners are tending to their own life: working, raising children, running a business, or resting during the hot days. Thank you for reading. Once there, the families and detectives began a massive search. To Jane I just gave the brief overall story of what I think happened. The black and red object above is clearly a decayed plant leaf. Shes ducking down slightly and trying to shield her eyes from the sun with her right arm. Dutch investigators attempted to recover the file but didnt manage to retrieve any data, which suggests that the camera was plugged into a computer and the file was deleted rather than deleted from the camera. My interest would be to see if its scientifically possible for the official theory to have happened. Tourists are usually only targeted when something goes wrong or someone has a specific personal problem with foreigners or a subset of foreigners. December 20, 2022. However, the perpetrators likely wanted the authorities to believe they were taken on the pianista trail. I just want to agree with Chris and the poster JW that she is shading her eyes with her right arm up. Weird. Why would they remove them? While some believe Kris and Lisanne died in an accident, the ex-cop slammed the police investigation in Panama as shoddy and said it should be redone. He threatened them with a machete, and led them to a sacrificial alter. They lose their money and leave Panama with their lives. There is discussion in reference to a possible cave, but is there any evidence that the girls found a cave besides perhaps Kriss hair appearing unusually dry in the night photos? We have no final police report only a lot of leaked info much second hand and multiple hand. The white and red object on the left looks slightly like a cows head and what I took to be Kriss tousled hair on the left of her head now looks like the thumb and fore finger of her left hand pointing to the inside of the hut. Cave photo: Wow, theres a lot going on in this picture. The remains of two American women who went missing after their plane crashed off the coast of Panama a month ago have been recovered, officials said. The ground is littered with leaves, twigs, and stones. Shortly after this photo is when the girls encountered trouble and tried to dial for help. And there have been some other unsolved murders in the same area where the girls were. Even the bones, the few that remain. That is an interesting photo taken of Kris Kremers under the slatted roof. The abductor did not take their things because hes not a thief. And the black mark on her face. 3. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk through the scenic forests around the Baru Volcano in Boquete. The same thing happened to the taxidriver who drove Kris and Lisanne to the forest. In the Americas, more than 6,200 people have been reported dead or missing during migration since 2014. It is possible for incompetence to work in conjunction with interests to protect key industries. Kris has somewhat prominent cheeks and a full lower lip. Is there a particular name, symbol or color associated with the gang? They took the dog with them on the walk and it came back the next morning but they didnt there had to have been some clues maybe like how far could the dog have gone and still find its way back home? Friends Kris Kremers (born August 9th, 1992) and Lisanne Froon (born September 24th, 1991) were two Dutch tourists who went missing under mysterious circumstances in early April of 2014 while on vacation in Panama, allegedly disappearing during a hike on the Pianista trail near Boquete.. A witness who wont be staying in Panama for long. Also I see a black pipe if you look carefully near one of the red and black objects the one that was circled. They added a caution sign after their disappearance for this exact reason. Over the years, dozens of tourists like Agarwal, many of them foreign nationals, have gone missing while visiting the Parvati Valley in the state of Himachal Pradesh. actually name names. It is extremely easy to photoshop a photo once it has been darkened. If their experience was catastrophic that that happened shortly before 16:36 UNLESS both were incapacitated and sense only returned at 16:36. I also think that we are looking at man-made roof structure, but its not the last photo, right? Same goes for the hair photo, that people think might be a portion of a previous shot. Yes, thank you, Sue. Why? I do not see any eyes, but I can definitely see a nose and a mouth. Hi Chris, and thank you for your nice comments! Its a bit strange that the dog is not in any picture. The two friends were traveling home after spending New Year's Eve weekend at a bed and breakfast on the Panamanian island Isla Contadora on Jan. 3 when their small plane, piloted by the B&B owner, suffered an engine failure and crashed off the coast of Chame, according to friends and family. According to ageographicalexpert, the three-mile stretch is relatively easy to explore, and most missing tourists return without assistance or come across search parties looking for them. Ive been into crime shows lately and my husband says I should be an investigator because Im obsessed. to Kris left is a huge dark area that has been poorly obscured with pixellation. one girl got hurt, i think in the fall the camera got wet and bumped. Its part of life in the countryside and small towns. Im baffled as to why this case hasnt been investigated more, if not for protecting an indigenous tribe. if both then was the other found in their room? The sign actually looks like a door with light shining thru.thats crazy. It is cooler at those altitudes but also inside the forest it will be more humid. I think it would be a mistake to assume Lisanne knew her friends password. There are no public statistics. What do you think?? I too believe this is most likely what happened. Also, where did learn that her brother mistakenly put the hair photo online? The pair had been hiking around the jungle for two weeks as part of a backpacking trip - and they were planning to stay for another four weeks with their host family to volunteer at a local school. If anything, that is an evidence that they were taking more risks than a regular tourist/hiker, so being lost and/or injured seems to me much more reasonable explanation (than murdered) based on that. I really feel that this place is the key to what happened to the girls. Was it taken on the afternoon of April 1st before their first distress call? On April 3, 2014, authorities began an aerial search of the forests and an on-foot search ofBoquete. At dawn the rain stops and she sets out. Thanks un advance, Lyn Carmichael. They maintained a great deal of secrecy and privacy and never officially published any information. They came to learn a language and embrace a culture. Should have read this before I commented lol. RIP sweet girls. It looks as if there is a guy standing off the edge in the tunnel. Thanks for some new information, excellent analysis of the photo! There was no signal!! Despite these . Hi Mohaiminul, you mention some good questions. Seems strange. I wrote about the upcoming book here: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/12/09/new-book-coming-spring-2021-kris-kremers-and-lisanne-froon-case/. Thank you, and keep up the good work. Sometimes I refer back to the Story of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, the two girls that made international headlines in 2014 when they disappeared in the northwest region of Panama. I prefer to think that the two girls had some sort of accident, still horrific but better than being murdered. Not getting any fingerprints looks suspect. Returning the phones + money immediately made it look like they werent attacked for robbery. So this photo may possibly offer more insight into the story. Sometimes that is all that is found. The calls bother me though. Shes just exploring. And hen you have body parts belonging to other persons also found with these girls. Vittorio Caruso. I was looking at the photographs again and something caught my eye. incredibly complicated for a new story to be written. Dogs are very independent here. However, Dutch authors Marja West and Jrgen Snoeren claim they have solved the mystery in their bookLost in The Jungle. I really hope the girls rest in peace and that nobody goes through this ever. Have you performed this same work on any of the other case photos? He walked the trail with Ks parents, a sweet friendly lovely dog companion with big wise blue eyes, he is prominent in the video made by Ks parents as they walked the trail. I agree with you that what happened is not some misadventure. However, the tone of the pictures began to change. People have long realized that its up to the public to solve this. Because of thedark, the pairmight have usedthe camera flash as a light sourceor to scare away animals. You will notice another branch of dead leaf just below it. She is NOT looking at the ground, but at the camera, with her face up. From my understanding, the various teams communicate with each other about which parts of the case they are investigating, and collaborate occasionally to share information. Right now Im simply building a list of names to determine interest: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/14/organizing-a-research-team/. Thats what I see as well. We simply dont have enough information at this time. And thinking its more possible that another person with a bleachbath and a Laptop/PC is wandering the jungle in Panama just shows me how little people nowadays know how dangerous the outdoors can be. If someone died, you would certainly write, Body can be found at xyz.. I think we are all seeing things that arent there. This is an excellent analysis. The structure at the back of this small ravine looks like a hideout that a military man might make, as part of survival training in the jungle. Often, they. The Panamanian government had requested that the U.S. deploy assets including Navy salvage divers and sonar to aid in the search effort and locate the wreckage in the days after the crash, but the request was denied due to a lack of assets and jurisdiction, according to a statement from the Velleman and Borries families. Thank you so much for walking the walk. If they did, then Im wondering if the dog named Blue went with them or was allowed in the taxi. The sun is shining right into her eyes so shes squinting and bending down a bit to see her friend, who was probably talking to her while snapping the photo. The girls were no longer alive after April 2nd latest. Seems like no one has taken off in the direction of the dog and what it could have offered us. I was surprised to learn that. Hi Mel, thanks for sharing. Im curious. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne. Why not just kill them and leave it be? The critical time is between the last foto and the first SOS call. The science can speak for itself. What people are mistaking as blood from her nose and lip is again just a shadow cast from her nostril and lower lip due to the bright sun. The arbitrary pictures looked focused as if steady hands took the shots, suggesting they were intentional. I am very familiar with the Koude Kas posts. Hi Chris, good question. The removed comment provided nothing helpful in any respect, and was merely to get attention and reactions. Another case that comes to mind is the case of Holger Hagenbusch: https://imperfectplan.com/2020/07/02/holger-hagenbusch-a-disturbing-murder-and-exposed-coverup-in-mexico/. This leads me to believe that they were followed by one or more men who made their presence known around that time. Jane, Recently I have been reading that it is not unusual for people that hike or run in dangerous places and go missing that a shoe with a foot is found. Tourism generates profits of approximately US$1,400 million annually. The world may never know what happened to the pair, but speculation still runs wild. But they are hurt and they are lost. On March 14, 2014, students LisanneFroon and Kris Kremers traveled from the Netherlands to Panama, where they intended toassistlocal communities, volunteerwith children, learnSpanish, and relax a bit. He has collected much that is out there but still the majority is second hand and we have no information as to the voracity. After any incident the first 24 hours are critical and it seems all that time was lost. Both were never seen again, The Sun reports. Thanks for pointing this out. For the first handful, a correct password was entered. However, if this photo showed that someone had hit her, why would the culprit not delete it along with photo 509. Blue is an uncommon color in the rainforest for anything of that size. https://voyager.lupomesky.cz/kremers-froon/kris-gully-3composite.jpg. And I think that sunlight she is trying t avoid also is the reason for her facial expression. While posing with sticking out your tongue means for a Dutch native you found something disgusting, especially while simultaneously closing your eyes. After the alarm was raised on April 2, a search party was sent to look for them but nothing was found until ten weeks later when a local woman who found Froons blue backpack turned it in to authorities. He wants the gringos to go away and leave him in peace. Thanks for the analysis though, I keep looking for new stuff, this case really gets to meI can see why people think this was a criminal act -I see that with some aspects of the case, however, I do think that it was the result of injury and or getting lost -I cant see a criminal 1) letting them keep their phones and camera and 2) letting the camera and phones being discovered. Ive considered a number of possibilities on the pictures. Chris, I hope you and a team go but I also understand, in the present age of uncertainty, if you dont. if you break your ankle in a fall and die your foot is likely to be found IN the shoe as is what happened. That could just be confirmation bias on my part. Debbie, I agree. As you mention, she is blocking the sun with her hand and keeping her head down. Two Dutch women who went missing in April in Panama are now confirmed dead, according to police and the women's families. Do they know more than we do? I want to come!! More probable is that the picture was deleted. I wanted to her a benefit of the doubt before I came across this article, yes she did mention red and black feathers on a piece of wood and turquoise pendant and a white mask. Youre asking why didnt they try to call a friend or family member WHEN THEY COULDNT EVEN GET A SIGNAL TO THE POLICE? Dogs here are seen as animals (like a jaguar or puma) that can take care of themselves, theyre seen as being dirty (not permitted on furniture) and are more rugged, like the dog can handle his own problems. As a side note, if all of the photos are in the order in which they were taken, why do they put their hair up, and take it down so much? If its part of the trail where people walk all the time I dont think something is up with this place. Right on the bank of the river/stream. Plus, corruption in Panamas government is rampant. Poverty, culture and crime in Latin America are different than poor nations in Asia and Africa. For this websites credibility I would strongly recommend more thorough moderation of peoples comments. Numerous families of disappeared family members have contacted me from my writing and the following is nearly always the sentiment they convey: Local authorities are unreliable, careless, slow to respond, even slower to take action, and they often hinder the familys own investigations. Im sitting here, with tears in my eyes and rolling down my cheeks.The transition from two weeks of lively holiday to stepping into the life of a real Panamanian family is just too much for me I want MOM and dad to hold me tight and tell me that everything will be alright I now feel like a small child of 2 yelling for her mother who is 2 meters away. https://www.laestrella.com.pa/nacional/141020/of-piece-medical-studies-examiner. From January to October, 86 Navajo men and women have gone missing nationwide, said Meskee Yanabah Yatsayte, a missing-persons advocate for . Really sad story, whichever way you look. But, Who took the photos on later dates? Then uses the flash to take many photos of the area, so she can return for Kris after finding help. I become very confused and not starting from Go and not knowing what is fact and what is anecdotal I just do not know. I cant explain it but again it resembles so many of the bizarre cases which author and former cop David Paulides has brought (thousands of these similar events) right here in the US and Canada. The back of the shirt was soiled (you interpret). The abductor is a deeply religious man, in his own demented way, and he sees this as a sign from God. Perhaps Kris is already caught in the trap and thats why she is in a funny position and her waist is drawn in tight. With all that Im reading now in the police file, it couldnt be anything else there was a certain sequence and timing to it, that had to be caused by the flash floods, typical to the region and season., Winning Photos from the 2018 Nikon Small World Competition, Incredible Time-lapse Shot from the International Space Station at Night, Intense Macro Photos of Ants Battling to the Death, Surprising Underwater Photo Revives Investigation of Missing Teen, Hacker Hoodie Blinds Surveillance Cameras with Infrared Light, Couple Finds Trove of 2,000 Cameras and Lenses in Storage Unit, Hyper-Realistic AI Face Filter Shocks TikTok Users, AI Tool Reveals How Celebrities Faces Have Been Photoshopped, The Exposure Donut for Sony Cameras Simplifies Manual Exposure. The simplest explanations are most likely to be the correct explanations. Ive seen cases in which political frenemies were erased out of photos without a trace. Nobody is safe. The rock isnt about the twig its got chunks of flesh and blood splatter all over it to the right and back of rock. I would think they had to be pretty far into the jungle to have come across that slat roof structure. She also is DEFINITELY looking to the right of the person with the camera (presumably Lisanne). Hello and thank you for doing such a thorough research. Panamanian screwed up the investigation monumentally, but I would think that the private detectives followed up all the leads: after all, they were getting paid a lot of money for it. The link to the main page where I give complete details of the story: The True Story of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon 2 Girls That Disappeared in Panama. The guide had something to do with the girls disappearance. After a second look, I found that the Yahoo article specifically states that it was 17 foreigners belonging to another sect, but Yahoo was somewhat unclear Foreign can have a lot of meanings in this context. It is also possible that an unknown person, possibly the one responsible for the girls deaths, deleted the file for some reason but not the others on the card with a laptop in the middle of the jungle. I see the nose and mouth and possibly and eye, like they were trying to hide from the girls or camera and peaking behind branches creepy. Was the dog fed and watered by a family as opposed to being one of the many feral dogs in Latin America? Auto Reset and Continuous. This is relevant because if the camera was on Auto Reset and 509 was deleted before 510 was taken, then the camera would use image 509 again. Snoeren and West believe that flash floods, which are typical to that area, would make strategically placing items impossible. I also live in a third-world country about which it was said that investigations were shut down, or botched, to protect the tourist industry. I can assure you that is nonsense. If you track the photos she takes her hair down around when she reached the top of the mountain and there are photos taken shortly after this showing her to be fine, in good spirits even. Didnt they cross the line where it had a clear sign not to cross it? The reason being, many people assume that shes leaning over and looking down at the rock before her. Although it might be the sun that gives her face a strange expression. Around 2 oclock. Maybe the girls did perish deep in the jungle, but that doesnt rule out somebody causing them to get lost. When neither Froonnor Kremers turned up, the community decided to wait until the next day to contact authorities. Why are you not sharing their photo number, why are you stating generalities, let me help you, there is a link with all the photos https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and_11.html ), which doesnt look natural. Their backpack contents and electronics were stolen to be sold later but handed back to stop the search and not be incriminated. It suggest that this case goes deeper than we imagine. Could be leaves, I suppose, but to me it looks like someone is looking at the them from the vegetation. Kids in the area could have found the backpack and were just messing around with the camera. Perhaps this is someone who had already joined them along the trail, and that only one of the girls was cool with the third party thats why the complete change from the first exuberant pictures. I havent spotted the finger with the silver ring in photo IMG_0580 thats the name of the hair photo, and in the night photos you found out that there are not one but two individuals that are of native origin nonetheless, which specific photos led you to that conclusion? Cheers. The last set of pics is especially chilling to me, my first thought was Lisanne may have been bound & hurt & somehow able to gain access to the camera & made a last attempt to signal for help or document everything around her as best she could & thats why all the angles are so awkward & unfocused. Its interesting numerous people have contacted me anonymously and informed me that there are already multiple existing research teams that are investigating this case privately. They got lost and succumbed to the wild. A woman from the localNgbetribeturned in a blue backpack she claimed she found along the bankof a nearby river. However, regarding Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, Id need to know more about their personality to make this determination. The area behind Kris is quite shadowed, but this seems to me to be more likely dense foliage than a cave. Panamas government is stuck in a desperate position. In the days following the students' disappearances, authorities conducted footand aerial searches. This either meant Lisanne Froon was conscious while Kris was not, and tried to call emergency services, or that a third party tried to get into her phone but didnt succeed. (who knows why). Police searches have found nothing and now his mother is flying out to try to find him. Hi Jim, That particular photo was supposed to have been taken at 1.20 pm. no, Jaguars fear humans and do not hunt them as tigers do in India. Why? Therefore we cannot conclude that a dog was even with them. Photo link: Of course there is room for healthy and rational speculation surrounding what happened but the vast majority of these theories are absolutely ridiculous and downright disrespectful. Possibly that info can help. is. If you watch the four part video of the entire trail beyond the Mirador you will see exactly where this photo was taken, and there is not a cave or ledge or ravine anywhere near her. Accordingly, Kremers's phone was powered-on one last time on April 11, 2014; both phones wentdead afterward. Almost like some picture had been there and this posted over or just strange, almost satanic looking things. Something drastic happened it is clear but what exactly and where exactly? Cops quizzed locals, tour guides and other hikers, but only the photos and call logs provided a slither of evidence as to what had happened. Bu that he meant an outcome which had no human input to the consequences. I agree that her hands look like they are over head. What I find unusual is that in a panic they did not repeatedly try unless she kept pressing redial and that does not register as a second attempt. Thanks for any information you can provide. This is significant because image 508 was the last photograph of them where they werent in any trouble. Think about it. So, unless there was camera tampering (that may be since one photo was apparently deleted digitally), her hands are not tied. Make sure you contact someone with this info. The girls' camera showed evidence of what may have happened. I think that this is definitely a murder, because of the rucksack. Perhaps this stranger had suggested he could guide them on a more interesting trail, or show them something interesting in the jungle. Could be that they were trying to avoid somebody on the trail, went off the oath & got lost. There is nothing ominous or cause for concern in this particular pic. All of this leads to resentment and frustration, which results in higher crime rates. So, their work was good but not perfect. 1. It looks straight and like it may go over the eye and above it. It was taken on the Continental Divide on April 1st, 2014 with the recorded time: 13:20:32. Government corruption perpetuates the proliferation of gang activity. The backpack contained two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, two bras, a water bottle - and importantly, Lisanne's passport. Perhaps it was created by locals in the region. Could be that the path turns sharp right or left (out of the frame) or continues up ahead after a short scramble. I know that its highly irregular for 17 foreigners to uproot their lives and relocate to the obscure jungles of Panama, especially for the purpose of sacrificing locals (whom are often Catholic). Also, #509 was deleted after all of the other photos were taken, which means someone went back and deleted it after all of the nighttime photos were taken. I dont buy it that those girls were murdered on the pianista trail. Search parties are looking for her. Thanks Chris!! https://photos.app.goo.gl/nVA1PDjjeVwULeo66. Some suggest that they could they have seen something that they didnt want the rest of the world to see. and happened to Kris that would explain why Lisannes phone was first one used to make an SOS call. The total number of people who have gone missing in Mexico since 2006 and have never been found stands at almost 87,855, according to the government from a report earlier this year. Despite search teams, which included dogs and. Her face also appears to be heavily damaged, bruised and bleeding and her hair appears to have been pulled out and or cut as its sticking out in ways that dont seem normal for her ponytail.. Sorry to bring up the dog again. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne Froon, 22, were hiking near the town of. The local jungle tribes people have been looking for the girls. When the girls were vacationing in South Panama it shows a photo of them in the ocean, and behind them in the ocean is a fat white man seemingly staring at them. It would also show that the photos had been truly messed about with, as this one is supposed to come before the photos of her crossing the stream. Particularly given that you have very admirable aspirations for what you intend to do by investigating the trail on the ground. I think Kris and Lisanne were two smart, savvy, levelheaded young women. A lot of times countries dont want investigations to be publicized or they shut them down as best they can in order for their tourist trade to not be hurt!!!!! When someone does finally find her, its the last people she would want to be found by. So many questions and there is no clear starting place like a police report to read. I believe that the LA Times article is more informative, so Ive updated the link in my writing above. Perhaps every murder in the first world is resolved. Or is it all part of a cover-up? I think its possible the red and black object is actually just a reddish-brown dead plant leaf jungle leaves can get rather large.
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